{"id":30349,"date":"2022-09-21T19:56:09","date_gmt":"2022-09-22T00:56:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brianjnoggle.com\/blog\/?p=30349"},"modified":"2022-09-21T19:56:09","modified_gmt":"2022-09-22T00:56:09","slug":"david-gilmour-sings-for-grownups","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brianjnoggle.com\/blog\/2022\/09\/21\/david-gilmour-sings-for-grownups\/","title":{"rendered":"David Gilmour Sings For Grownups"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Severian posted this Nerd Fight today: <a href=\"https:\/\/foundingquestions.wordpress.com\/2022\/09\/21\/nbc-nerd-fight-songs-for-grownups\/\" target=\"_new\" rel=\"noopener\">songs for grownups<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Or my other nominee, Bob Seger\u2019s \u201cNight Moves.\u201d Yep, that\u2019s what it feels like, all right, to be a normal teenage boy in a culture that isn\u2019t quite yet terminal. It\u2019s also what it\u2019s like to be a normal adult looking back on that teenage boy. It\u2019s not goopy nostalgia; Bob knows those days are gone. It\u2019s not \u201cGosh, I wish I\u2019d done this and that differently;\u201d it\u2019s \u201cI\u2019m glad it ended the way it did, because I am a sadder yet wiser person for it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In other words, it\u2019s a song by an adult, for adults.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I mean, his first nominee is Dan Fogelberg\u2019s &#8220;Same Auld Lang Syne&#8221; (::spit::).  Heaven and the blog archives know what I think of that song.<\/p>\n<p>Severian invites commenters to identify songs written for adults.<\/p>\n<p>Gentle reader, I&#8217;m sure you would remember were you not still young that I posted <a href=\"https:\/\/brianjnoggle.com\/blog\/2003\/04\/09\/6723\/\" target=\"_new\" rel=\"noopener\">Music: Not For Grown-Ups Any More<\/a> in <em>2003<\/em>, when I was less of a grownup than I am now, that music of the modern day was\/is written for the young.  We&#8217;ve covered the ground about why popular music tends to be geared to the young (I&#8217;m too lazy to find the links now&#8211;troll my <a href=\"https:\/\/brianjnoggle.com\/blog\/?s=%22Same+Auld+Lang+Syne%22\" target=\"_new\" rel=\"noopener\">Music<\/a> category and see if you can find the posts about how country music was the last genre to fall to the call of the young and why I hate &#8220;Same Auld Lang Syne&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>One of his commenters posted about Roger Waters of Pink Floyd (as a co-worker in 1990 called them, &#8220;Three old men and a guitar&#8221;).  However, that commenter missed the proper member of Pink Floyd for adults.<\/p>\n<p>Roger Waters&#8217; solo work was always a bit of youthful naval gazing.  <em>The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking<\/em> resonates when you&#8217;re young and your relationships are unstable.  <em>Radio K.A.O.S<\/em> and <em>Amused to Death<\/em> were political statements.  Apparently, he has released music since then, but who cares?  I mean, I grokked <em>The Wall<\/em> because my parents divorced when I was young, but aside from touching that youthful wire, meh.<\/p>\n<p>David Gilmour, on the other hand&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>On his 1978 solo album <em>David Gilmour<\/em>, his song &#8220;So Far Away&#8221; describes being close to but being far away from a lover:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xlVvhRgZ4mk\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Sweet Christmas, when I got that tape (audiocassettes were the thing in 1990-1991, child), I was an awkward teenager with no experience with the ladies.  And I could imagine how it might feel (more than I could from Poison&#8217;s &#8220;Every Rose Has Its Thorn&#8221;).  Now that I am, ahem, 25 years old and a little more experienced with the lady (my beautiful wife), I think he got it right.<\/p>\n<p>His 1984 album <em>About Face<\/em> contains a couple of gems.  The first is &#8220;Out of the Blue&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0I5lYqIqn44\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Which is all about the passage of time.  Not only his, <em>but his children&#8217;s<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The last song on the album is &#8220;Near the End&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FgSCQk3UeT4\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Jeez, Louise, it&#8217;s a song about turning the record over and starting it again, renewal, and:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Thinking that we&#8217;re getting older and wiser<br \/>\nwhen we&#8217;re just getting old.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When he wrote that, he was far younger than I am now, albeit older than I was then.  But it resonated.<\/p>\n<p>Gilmour&#8217;s work has been a mix of mature, grownup songs, political\/activist kinds of songs, and a lot of working with the music itself&#8211;the la(te)st Pink Floyd album <em>The Endless River<\/em> and his work with The Orb tend toward the techno and electronica&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>But here&#8217;s a later work&#8211;&#8220;Yes, I Have Ghosts&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MQBrGZuOB-8\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>You won&#8217;t find music for grownups in popular music&#8211;that&#8217;s all geared to kids.  You can find it, even now, if you look for it.<\/p>\n<p>If you want, old man.  Me, I&#8217;m looking for new metal to exercise by, metal with youthful vigor as befits me when I exercise.<\/p>\n<p>But then Gilmour.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Severian posted this Nerd Fight today: songs for grownups: Or my other nominee, Bob Seger\u2019s \u201cNight Moves.\u201d Yep, that\u2019s what it feels like, all right, to be a normal teenage boy in a culture that isn\u2019t quite yet terminal. It\u2019s also what it\u2019s like to be a normal adult looking back on that teenage boy. 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