{"id":26021,"date":"2020-04-15T10:27:39","date_gmt":"2020-04-15T15:27:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brianjnoggle.com\/blog\/?p=26021"},"modified":"2020-04-15T10:27:39","modified_gmt":"2020-04-15T15:27:39","slug":"yesterdays-poem-and-talking-back-to-eternity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brianjnoggle.com\/blog\/2020\/04\/15\/yesterdays-poem-and-talking-back-to-eternity\/","title":{"rendered":"Yesterday’s Poem and Talking Back To Eternity"},"content":{"rendered":"

So we’ve been talking about allusion<\/em> in our poetry studies. I compared allusion to memes which are all the hotness these days, and how that kind of is the same thing: A “new” work refers to an older work with which you are familiar, and you get a zing from knowing what the new work means invoking the old. A little line can include a lot of meaning when you understand the meaning behind those words, the larger experience of having read the work alluded to.<\/p>\n

I said it’s kind of like memes because when you see one of the current Smudge the cat memes:<\/p>\n

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You recognize the context of the meme: The angry woman says something, perhaps incorrectly, and the cat weighs in with the truth, which is sometimes incorrect in its own way. But you get the punchline because you’re already familiar with the joke. <\/p>\n

A meme is nothing compared to an allusion, though, in terms of power or the amount of information shared with the reference because poems and other works (such as the Bible, something often alluded to) have a lot more density and meaning to them.<\/p>\n

So I explained to my boys, hoping it would stick that alluding to, say, Longfellow poem in a cartoon<\/a> would have more depth and staying power<\/em> than a mere mash-up or meme. After all, they’re steeped in the Internet from the last couple of years (since their self-awareness and receiving the school laptops), but they have no idea what I has a bucket<\/a> means.<\/p>\n

At any rate, then I mentioned a little bit about how poems sometimes completely respond to each other. Examples include Matthew Arnold’s Dover Beach<\/a> by Matthew Arnold and the reply The Dover Bitch<\/a> by Anthony Hecht and The Passionate Shepherd To His Love<\/a> by Christopher Marlowe and the reply The Nymph’s Reply to the Shepherd<\/a> by Sir Walter Raleigh.<\/p>\n

Yesterday, we did a poem from Amoretti<\/em> by Edmund Spenser<\/a>:<\/p>\n

One day I wrote her name upon the strand,
\nBut came the waves and washed it away:
\nAgain I wrote it with a second hand,
\nBut came the tide and made my pains his prey.
\nVain man (said she) that dost in vain assay
\nA mortal thing so to immortalize;
\nFor I myself shall like to this decay,
\nAnd eke my name be wiped out likewise.
\nNot so, quoth I; let baser things devise
\nTo die in dust, but you shall live by fame;
\nMy verse your virtues rare shall eternize,
\nAnd in the heavens write your glorious name:
\n   Where, when as Death shall all the world subdue,
\n   Our love shall live, and later life renew.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Not exactly a reply<\/em>, but more of a humorous update, today we have:<\/p>\n

One day I sprayed her name upon the wall,
\nbut then it got erased by blasting sand.
\nI tried again with neon pink in hand,
\nbut later on they greyed my urban scrawl.
\n“You dope,” said she, “what are you trying to do?
\nEach time you paint my name, they’ll cover it,
\nand take away whatever little wit
\nyou crafted there; your scratching won’t show through.”
\n“So what?” I said. “When I’ve used up my paint,
\nand both our names inside their little hearts
\nare blasted by the city’s cleansing men,
\nI’ll take some pride in knowing that the taint
\nof darker paints or sand-scorched building parts
\nare secret signs of joys that once had been.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

That’s one I wrote; it is, of course, available in Coffee House Memories<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n

I’m not saying that the Spenser poem influenced me, but I also have another<\/em> response\/update to it entitled “A Carved Tree (I)” which begins:<\/p>\n

One day I carved her name into a tree<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

“A Carved Tree (II)” represents an update to the poem “A Carved Tree (I)” but not a reply or update of the original source.<\/p>\n

Clearly, I was into sonnets and sonnet series\/cycles when I was younger.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, that means that “O Capitan! My Captain!” will have to wait until tomorrow and not the anniversary of Lincoln’s Death<\/a>. And I can mention to the boys that it appears in the movie Dead Poets Society<\/em><\/a>. Although with the word Poets right in it, you would have to expect some poetry.<\/p>\n

So poems can be a way of talking back to eternity. Memes, though, are merely talking back to today.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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